Guns that were often made by the tens of millions, in countries that either no longer exist or whose names cannot be pronounced by Western tongues. Guns that attract sneers and looking-down-the-nose condescension from the bespoke shotgun crowd at your shooting range. Guns, in other words, for Cheap Bastards. Or, in this case, paranoid cheap bastards. The Mosin-Nagant rifle fought the enemies of the Russian and Soviet Rodina from the s until the early s.

The Russians used their Mosin-Nagants against the Japanese, the Germans, their fellow Russians, neighboring Finns and, finally, more Germans and more Japanese.

The Mosin-Nagant earns no great distinction in having been used and abused by millions of illiterate peasant soldiers and Soviet conscripts. Truth to tell, the Mauser 98 and the Lee-Enfield would be superior SHTF rifles in almost every category—except reliability and price. Nothing holds a candle to the Mosin-Nagant when it comes to price and reliability.

During World War Two, the Mosin-Nagant was the weapon of choice and necessity of Soviet and Finnish snipers. These grim reapers of the eastern front used the Mosin-Nagant to single-handedly kill entire companies of enemy soldiers.

His sniper girlfriend, Tania Chenaya, who may or may not have looked anything like Rachel Weisz gave at least 80 Germans a dirt nap with her own Mosin-Nagants. Lyudmilla Pavlichenko was even more effective: He killed Soviet soldiers in just days during the Winter War ofusing only his Finnish-made Mosin and its iron sights. It may be ugly and antiquated, but a Mosin-Nagant in the right hands and a target-rich environment is a nine-pound weapon of mass destruction.

Today, Mosin-Nagants are the Mother of All Budget-Minded SHTF WROL WTF is that rifles. Prices are even better at gun shows and gun stores. Your mileage may vary. Buy the right dog. Not every Mosin-Nagant is worthy of your zombie panic-room. Triggers run from good to hideous, as do their bores. Preferably on a slow day. Test for a decent trigger pull.

As a bonus, many of them have been arsenal-refinished. Once the Big Brown Truck drops off your crate of ammo, go ahead, make it pay. Blast holes in paper targets, tin cans and big game void where prohibited by law. Russia and Eastern Europe produce hundreds of millions of rounds each year. Compare that to the cost of commercial.

This cheap ammo is no slouch, either. Some of the cartridges feature a mild-steel bullet core. CBs Cheap Bastards note: No reloading for you.

But failure to do it even once can ruin the bore and trash the gun. It features a straight grip, a dismally short length of pull and a contusion-inducing steel buttplate. The short pull length was meant to allow a proper hold while wearing incredibly bulky Russian winter uniforms. The butt end of the Mosin-Nagant resembles a steel-clad cudgel, destructible only by fire or chainsaw.

It is what it is: Engaging it requires griping a small, slippery cocking piece on the rear of the bolt and pulling it back with 20 to 30 pounds of force while twisting it counterclockwise. Disengaging it requires the same knuckle-crushing manipulation in reverse.

This is challenging for iron-fingered rock climbers, difficult for mortal men and completely impossible for those with arthritis, gloves or cold fingers. Its robust open sights are optimistically calibrated out to 1.

The carbine models M38 and M44 are more challenging to shoot well because of their shorter sight radii, but benefit from much quicker handling. But M44s do come with a permanently attached side-folding bayonet which can stab your left middle finger if you grip the stock the wrong way. Or maybe like a featherweight. Not all of them were guns I would have bought; some had horrid triggers and some had rough bores. You will not find a more rugged or reliable firearm on earth.

This is usually caused by baked-in cosmoline in the chamber. While the rim provides extremely positive extraction of spent cases, it requires special attention when loading.

Each inserted cartridge must be pushed fully to the rear of the magazine before another is inserted on top of it. The short-barreled Mosin variants M38 and M44 are also amongst the loudest small arms ever built. DO NOT fire them without hearing protection, even once, unless your life depends on it. Failure to double up sentences me to a splitting headache, which lasts for hours. It also subjects you and your fellow shooters to a grenade-like concussion. The Mosin-Nagant has frugal charms and ergonomic flaws.

Maybe you could improve the trigger pull a little, or give it a functional safety mechanism, or replace the stock,or add a scope, or. These three modifications will make your Mosin a more accurate, comfortable and safe gun without compromising its character or reliability. Steer clear of DIY bent bolt kits. Bolt handles are subjected to enormous stresses, which can shear the tiny machine screws that secure DIY bolt handles to the body.

Mosin-Nagant triggers are all over the place in terms of creep, weight, overtravel and grittiness. You should have selected a good trigger when you cherry-picked your rifle. Next time, pay attention in class. Mounting a scope on a Mosin is tricky. Most are too flimsy to withstand the recoil or hold their zero. Degreasing it thoroughly and applying blue Loctite to all screws during assembly was crucial to holding zero.

First off, they make these guns even louder. They also attach rather weakly to the front sight post, which is only pressed onto the barrel proper. The violent recoil and muzzle gasses from these guns can either permanently damage the front sight post or physically tear the muzzle brake apart. I have a twisted paperweight that used to be an AK-style muzzle brake on my Mosin-Nagant.

For an SHTF WROL OMG you bought THAT? Two-hundred dollars and change buys you a rock-solid rifle—and rounds of ammo. Blue steel, wooden or laminated stock Capacity: Nobody likes straight stocks or straight bolt handles. Stout recoil and a short length of pull give the carbine models punishing recoil. Add a ring safety and thick recoil pad for 2. Trigger, bolt and safety can be upgraded cheaply, but proper scope mounting is costly.

Buyer beware aftermarket muzzle brakes and DIY bolt modifications. When the men of the American th Infantry deployed to Northern Russia in September they carried Mosin-Nagant 91s.

The MN91s were issued to them by the British War Office, which was in charge of the operation, for logistical reasons. Allied commanders believed a large cache of 7. Though they were given sufficient time to familiarize themselves with the MN rifles, both the enlisted men and officers of the th, accustomed to M Springfields or M Enfields, hated the Russian rifles, calling them "worthless weapons" and remarking, "No wonder they [the Russians] lost the war.

The only weapon which more infuriated the "Polar Bears" as they have been called ever since their Winter of combat tour in Russia was the Vickers machine gun. The British, who were actually in charge of the entire American North Russia Expeditionary Force, in their infinite wisdom equipped the th and the other units of the ANREF with the water-cooled Vickers, knowing full well the men would be in Russia the entire winter.

They also fed them British rations, which warmed the cockles of no man's heart. Personally, if planning for a SHTF WROL situation one I hope doesn't ever occurI would be inclined to heed the experience of the Polar Bears and spend a little extra money to get a better rifle than the Mosin-Nagant, in a cartridge more readily available in post-ROL United States.

You might pay more on the front end, but as the saying goes, "Garbage in, garbage out. I'm glad you mentioned the US-made Mosin-Nagants. A late riend of mine owned a well-worn Remington contract Mosin-Nagant, and I had the chance to shoot it on a few occasions. I wish I had bought it as a collector piece; it was an interesting historical oddity, and one of the only Mosin-Nagants with any collector value. The 'Polar Bears' were quite right to prefer their own M Springfields and M Enfields, which were superior weapons in almost every regard.

Mausers were just as rugged and much easier to shoot, Lee-Enfields were much quicker and had twice the magazine capacity, and Springfields were far more accurate than Mosin-Nagants. I have three hex receiver MN Finnish M39 rifles, one is a Continuation War Sako, and the other two are mfg. It came packed full of the usual cosmoline, but has been completely and professionally accurized.

To include steel pillars and receiver glass bedded, the forestock and hand guard have been scraped to insure barrel is no contact free floating. I have been researching to find more about such a rifle, only thing have found is some of the M39 no name service rifles were used for officer training and competitive target competition. But nothing along the lines of what has been done to this one rifle.

I also have two round receiver Russian MN rifles, one a Tula and the other is a Izhevsk. The machine work on these prewar rifles is just superb. The Izhevsk I just got, and except for the stock wood which has handling marks, is like non-refurbed new in all respects. The Tula is a prebubbarized carbine I got for 25 bucks, but it proved very accurate with cast bullets, so scouted it out and is now my truck gun.

Can see the Tula and how I scouted it here: Just remember, there is no such thing as having just one MN rifle, they breed like rabbits, then crowd your other guns out to the side. I use modern rounds so I don't have to deal with the corrosive primer issues. I can consistently shoot a 24"-square steel target yards with open sights at my local range. Fun gun to shoot and a nice little piece of history. So far as I know all of Mr. Zaytsev's achievements were in Stalingrad.

Id' guess m would be considered a VERY long shot in that environment. I've a number of M-Ns with my favorites being the M44s. I like the noise and flash plus the strange looks I get when I extend the bayonet to shoot it does seem to make a difference on where the bullet lands. You're right that they are solid, dependable long guns and the ammo is very reasonable although I rarely buy anymore as I've dozens of Spam cans of the stuff and 8mm and.

So, if SHTF occurs in my neighborhood I think I'm ready. BUT just out of the box for the price it cant be beat? Solid bore, not the smoothest bolt I've worked on a mosin but it was still quite workable even if it did get stiff once the thing had a few dozen rounds through it.

The only times I ever experienced a legit jam was when one of the rimmed cartridges would wedge itself at an angle into the magazine well, usually caused by a rapid and sloppy loading with a stripper clip.

Sometimes this necessitated removing the magazine, but not always. I highly recommend getting quality stripper clips. Examine each one, if it's stiff or gritty on the inside polish it up and loosen it by spreading it apart against a table etc. Practice loading with them also, obviously. From a SHTF standpoint, this weapon has: It's long excluding the carbines fairly heavy, has some awkward features and quirks, and obviously can't generate the kinds of firepower of any semi-auto.

Don't get me wrong, I could work that bolt FAST, fast enough to feel confident defending my life with it, even against someone with a gun much more capable. Man on man, preferably with things like concealment and surprise at my disposal, you bet. Realize that tesshese weapons are still encountered on modern battlefields, it's a damn old design but that doesn't turn it into a usel relic. The Mujaheddin used them to good effect against the soviets in A-stan by using irregular tactics and ambushes, which is how I would see these as being effective in a SHTF scenario.

As a side note, you might want a good magazine pouch for those stripper clips huh? Look no further than the standard leather dual pouch that often comes with mosins. The flap can be opened instantly but stays closed when you need it to, the leather is stiff enough to allow easy retrieval of the clip without it getting hung up in a loose cloth bag, and the downward orientation of the rounds keeps the cartridges from wanting to slip off the ends of the clip.

In closing, for such little money, you have a helluva boomstick. This isn't the greatest rifle on Earth, but it is in it's price range. That said these are great fun guns. I don't shoot mine form the bench, standing with a shooting stick or sitting are a good way to go, a lot less felt recoil. Please send video file or link of your hands cannon to guntruth me.

Very VERY interesting article! He gave me his old Mosin-Nagant—not sure where he got it—along with a big metal box of rounds of surplus FMJ. Knowing him, I should never have thought he was doing me a nice turn. After reading this article, I now know his real intentions! I never saw such an ugly-looking thing in my life! He handed it to me—it looked like a mower shaft ruined by a froze-up bearing probably due to manufacture during the Nazi occupation of Western Russian Homeland?

I assume the wooden sheathing was to cover up the tooling striations on the barrel. I looked at this Christmas gift thing and wondered what in the world I was looking at!!! I took it home and tore it all apart—re-worked the sear and bolt a bit—and got seriously impressed with the simplicity and ruggedness of this cumbersome clunk.

But the most interesting thing is all the WWII research this thing caused for my overBaby-Boomer curiosity. Very, very interesting piece of history my less-than-well-intentioned bro-in-law gave me! And thanks much for the very humorous article! At the range, yard lane, I hit paper without even sighting in. But let me qualify this. All five rounds are spaced within 2 inchs horizontally.

I believe the width of the group can be drastically reduced if i were more steady. However this was the first 25 rounds through a gun i just bought. I am thrilled with it. Suprised with its performance. Every gun nut i know puts it down. It reminds me of my brother in law who works for oxford industries. If your in Hiram, ga, look for mine at local ranges. I will be glad to let you shoot it. It will suprise and exceed expectations.

The Mosin Nagant is the Rat rod of rifles. Finns are the only Mosins worth having. Y, even the original Sk. Y stock is numbered to match with is exceptionally rareall with perfect barrels and all of which are at or near MOA capable. The standard of acceptance for the M39 was that each rifle was required to be able to put three shots in a row in a 1. No other country in history has ever been so demanding of accuracy in their infantry rifles.

Funny thing is, it was imported from Russian not Finland.

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Those guys at SAKO and Tikka and VKT really, REALLY knew how to make a rifle tick. Still do for that matter, making Mosin barrels better than any Mauser or Enfield ever made is how SAKO earned their name. Finns are certainly good rifles. But, They are most definitely not the only ones worth having.

You might want to add that the Mosin rifles were also used against the Polish, Lithuanians, Mongolians, Ukranians, Latvians, Estonians, Georgians, Austrians, Hungarians, Turkish, Bulgarians, Romanians, and even the British, Americans, Czechoslovakians, French, Greeks, and Italians.

Most of these are a result of the Russian Civil War and only saw limited use against some of these powers, but it did happen. Very nice rifle, the bore is immaculate and the stock is in pretty good shape for an 80 year old rifle.

The numbers match but I personally think that the ones on the bolt and floorplate were stamped, and the butt plate was lined out, but whatever. The bolt is smoother than some of my modern day rifles, and giving the chamber a good cleaning is a good solution if you have sticky bolt.

I finally got a chance to shoot it this past weekend and it went very well. I shot about 20 surplus rounds and about 5 commercial rounds. Shooting grain surplus is also good for recoil as I shot grain Prvi Partizan ammo, which had more felt recoil. You want something that kicks like a mule? Shoot a 7mm Remington Magnum in grain bullet for some recoil. But anyway, I love the rifle, it has become my favorite.

After I added the pad,no problem. I have put them on several Mosins over the years but, I keep giving Mosins for presents. Having ownership of each of the several countries rifles of the time period they were used I would agree with all of you. Each has its own flaws and positive points.

But I will stick with my 91 with a laminent stock. OOOHHH pretty amber red color. I went and spent some money on the young miss and gave her some optical improvement by installing a PU scope. How many of you have set up your AR to have optics AND back-up iron sights for mucho dinero? Well the nagant was the first to be prepared. As far as caliber goes, the 30 cal will always be the preferred cartridge no matter what part of the world you are from.

I guess I got lucky with a rifle that shoots 2 inch groups at yards. Mausers ar enfields or springfields 3 was considered just fine and is usually what you will get with any of these rifles. Ok must go now a metal target plate is talking trash about my baby. Gotta give it some lessons in courtesy and respect. I shoot grain soft point commercial ammo.

I find the mosin comfortable to shoot and handle. It sometimes takes a little muscle to cycle the bolt, especially after it heats up, but this rifle has never failed to operate. The cartridges will rimlock occasionally, but a sharp slap on the bolt handle is enough to easily chamber the round. More often than not, I use the palm of my hand to slap the bolt when cycling the action anyway!

This is one tough, reliable and simple rifle! He has agreed to let me select from his stock so I am keeping my fingers crossed I can find a real treasure amongst them. When it comes to hunting and shooting, we sometimes forget how good we have it here in the States, and how difficult and costly it can be for people like yourself in other modern democracies.

I would love to know more about the shooting sports and self-defense in NZ. Has your government gone as far as the Australians have to demonize and restrict gun ownership? Hi Chris, our gun laws are not as bad as Australia. After sitting a basic licence, theory and multi choice written test we get a A category licence.

This allows me to own most shotguns and rifles except pistol grip semi autos and pistols. We have rifle ranges varying from yards around the country and pistol clubs etc.

A good forum here is http: They are among the easiest to disassemble and clean. I was a Navy Corpsman and served with the Marines and have had the pleasure of shooting some of the most exciting and exotic weapons on the planet earth. The Mosin in comparison is dependable, shoots accurately and I know no matter the elements this gun will shoot — it is a BUG Big Ugly Gun.

I have the most fun at the range with the M44 when I shoot as the people around me are going pop-pop-pop, then I come out and go B A N G -B A N Newspaper article of the stock market crash 1929, damn get the fire extinguisher — people stop and look wondering what I am shooting.

All in all the mosin is a reliable fun and affordable gun to have in any collection. Couldnt hit the inside of a barn with either one of them. Far better rifle for sure. I think Mozzies get a bad rep because of the atrocious milsurp ammo they tend to get fed on and the relatively crude ladder sights. Yes very much so. I own a Nagant and after a few after market pieces…I have a very accurate and efficient rifle, that I am very pleased with. Its accuracy is astounding for such a big bore.

Polishing triggers,springs, sears, shimming the mounting points for the receivers, and sanding out barrel channels. That secrets of the trading in gold binary options I really intended to be a parts gun.

If your bolt is hard ato exchange rates 2012-13 work try putting a little Flitz on the camming surfaces of the bolt, and then working it.

Flitz, or even fine grade auto body polish will clean those surfaces up without changing their design faces. Just make sure you disassemble and clean well afterward. Tom sooo damned right about the grade of ammo and accuracy achieved. My Finnish mid war rifle…. D …SA…and Tula made markings on it… vintage is a straight shooter and can be irratic as well. It tends to shoot flatter and more consistent than older mil-spec ammo. Results are consistent tight groups. I use a long view4 power scope on an SKS frame mount over the original sight base.

Off the bags it hits five rounds inside 3inches at yards…. THAT will end life in anything you dare shoot at! Off hand position hits groups about inches consistent using Grain Wolf ammo. I can have a in grouping, standing up, iron sight, shooting at a foot and a half by foot and a half plate at yards.

No need to get close and personal with the mosin at all. The bolt handle must parrondo paradox forex bent and extended to provide clearance for the scope.

Some more interesting things. First there are dovetails under the site. Just punch out the two pins to get to them. It like shooting a. Its as quite as a.

Learned the hard way about the penetration abilities of these beasts. I had been shooting an M Which btw you want to shoot with the bayonet out, as that does somehow affect accuracy, and will also prevent hand stabbings at a metal target that swiveled on a rebar axle. Not long after the target was rendered usless when one or two rounds cut cut through the rebar axle.

One thing about purchasing a Mosin: The more original the rifle is, the better its components tend to fit together. Everything locks up tight and functions like it should. A friend of mine has a binary options with staggered. I got the better deal. Accurate, deadly, and cheap.

By now most have been arsenal refurbed with a beautiful blue and still have a decent bore. The round recievers are just as good internally, but outer apperance tends to show more tool marks. The ones pruduced during WW2 have the overall worse fit and finish since production time was cut from 20 to 15 hours to meet demands.

They are ugly, but will be the best shooters since they have seen less make quick cash in san francisco. Not to mention the extra cost. They are not rare by any means, just less comomon. The M38 is more desirable, but harder to find.

They are truly excellent well built guns, but most were mistreated and you rarely see a good one anymore. Avoid mismatched serial numbers on primary parts at all costs. Most counterbores are the result of imporper cleaning techniques, not from being worn out.

Post war refurbed Mosins will have a square stamped on the right side of the stock and make up most of the retail market. These refurbs were well done except for the end in some cases they were hastily put back together. My Tula has been refurbed 4 times in the past and when I bought it many screws were loose.

Always completely dissassemble and clean them before shooting. Baked cara trading forex profit cosmoline is the 1 reason for sticky bolts and poor cycling. DO NOT FIRE without checking the headpace first.

Some arsenals did check, but many did not. The screwdriver in the cleaning kit doubles as a headspace gauge and a firing pin wrench. Learn how to use it! Just remember, these were sighted in with the bayonets on at meters and for the most part will shoot high to the left all the time.

The sights are set for mass volley fire, not precision shooting and were intended to arm large masses of illiterate conscrpits, ngm trading system to achieve real accuracy you will need to spend a little time dialing it in.

I resently bought my first mosin nagant… I been doing a lot of research on it now… I never known anything about this weapon accept it looked rather nice as far as i know about weapons… I bought it with out any Intel on easy magic coin tricks to learn. But I love it….

I kindly like it the way it is… Also thinking about camo the whole weapon…. Any idea on that also? Best web site i found so far…. One more thing I only bought the rifle no sling no bayanet no thing accept decent weapon as far as I am concern… I hear a lot of bad Intel on it,but the one I found is great more accurate then most weapon I have shoot…its shirt heavy and reliable…. If you follow their instructions and have access money making guide p2p rs a drill press you can do it yourself.

I have the setup on my M38 Mosin and can shoot 2. I think it is the best mount and bolt body you can get. A friend of mine sold me the scope mount that he got from Rocksolid and never installed on his Mosin. Hope this was some help. Heading over to the Big 5 today, theyve got them at with bayonets and cleaning kits after christmas special. I am hoping the quality is good because its being sold in a chain store. This is my first rifle purchase I have shot many, only owned air rifles though and I have decided to go with this one because of the history.

I have a Izhevsk imported by PW arms. The stock looks pretty good, some very minor scratches, the barrel looks perfect, and the action feels smooth. So now I am anxious to try it out. People who are calling this a crap gun is just not being reasonable at all. Where are you going to get this kind of power in any rifle for this price? Or you can buy a. There are even some air rifles that cost more. Tons of videos on youtube on how to care for this rifle as well.

But man I love that thing. As I am an Engineer and decent machinist it was not difficult. Would not recommend it for someone with no machine shop experience. Kit works well and greatly improved my ability to hit a target well past yards. The steel cased ammo was the worst, my hand loaded rounds gr Spitzer was the best.

But overal within 1inch at 50yds. Had a difficult time believing this article was referring to my lovely safe queens, as I find them to be the most attractive firearms of the period besides the swiss k It was so mild that all my shooting buddies even the most recoil shy, who were scared off by articles like this, shot it and are pursuing their own as they found it quite mild and very fun.

After a day of watching for 22lr bullet splash at yds there is no mistaking the authoritative impact of the 54r on a snow covered sand pile. If every one gets one in the US perhaps one day we may fight off socialism with the rifle that brought it to us.

I had a difficult time believing this article was referring to the safe queens I love. I find them to be the most attractive rifle of the period besides the swiss k Both of mine came with excellent finish of metal and wood with shiny bore. Accuracy was good an 8 x 10 plate at yd was easy fodder for those that master that long hard trigger pull. All my range comrades, even the most recoil sensitive that have been frightened off by articles like this, enjoyed it so much they anticipate procuring one of their own.

Put it on one of the M Had to notch the stock but no big deal. Also put recoil pad that adds about an inch to the stock, and is made of leather that has velcro on it and I can easily change from one Mosin to another. I re finished the stocks without loosing any of the markings and was asked at the local Gun shop how much I would charge to do a couple for him. I bought my Mosin-Nagant from Big Heavily cosmolined, but good bore and action. Cleaned it up using Easy Off Oven Cleaner, hot shower, fine steel wool and boiled linseed oil.

Gets lots of attention at walmart money makers november 2016 gun range…everyone wants to shoot it.

The Mosin rifle is the most fun to shoot,Big Bad-Ass rifle a guy or gal can legally own! It is super affordablethe ammo is in the 20 cents each range for bulk surplus and they are generally rather accurate. We enjoy busting concrete blocks at yardsmaking geysers out of 2 liter plastic soda bottles and shooting zombie targets. I brought one to a family gathering recently out at a farm owned one of the family.

All the men and a couple of the gals wanted to shoot it! Everyone got a chance to pop a couple of rounds ; but I had one big complaint: YOU ONLY BROUGHT 30 ROUNDS OF AMMO! BRING MORE NEXT TIME! I mounted a B-Square mount, and slapped a used leupold 4x compact, bent bolt kit, and recoil pad.

But shooting at 18 cents per round for 7. Cleaning the corrosive out of the barrel is easy with hot soapy water. On a good day I can get 2-inch groups. The Bulgarian surplus carrollton oh livestock auction shoots just as good as Brown bear with inch groups.

Easy shooting out to meters. You cannot have too many Mosins. I think they are beautiful, shoot great, are indestructible and make a very big hole in anything they are shot at. I believe the air space retained in the paper towels acts as a shock absorber, like you have on your car! May not look kosher, but sure saves your shoulder! I got this Mosin-Nagant a short while ago. Spent hours cleaning it. Baked it in the sun.

Spent two hours trying to open it. Four letter words became eight letter words. The cat hid, the wife was in shock. Tried it out first time. One boom, two booms, three booms, and the bolt jammed. Range people got bent out of shape. Apparently ammo was not brass Openrange near Louisville, KY. So, now looking for range that accepts steel Russian ammo! I had the pleasure of getting my first Mosin a couple of years ago.

A fellow Deputy that I work with saw my Crimson Trace lazer on my duty Glock He stated that he would like to have one for his Glock Just binary option affiliate program happened I had an extra forex lending rates for a Glock and trade him for the Mosin, bayonet, cleaning kit, and 75 rounds of ammo.

The next week a buddy of mine that works for the local Bomb Squad gave me an 50 cal ammo can with round of ammo for free. Later thre same Deputy I had gotten my Mosin from said he had another one futures broker representative malaysia the bayonet an ask me if I wanted to do another trade.

I was able to get the other one for rounds of Chinese SKS ammo.

I had a bent bolt and scope put on the first one, but bought a second bolt to be cut off because I did forex articles ezine want to cut the bolt with the original serial number on it. I have been using it for deer hunting and have gotten at least one deer for the last three years. I make money teaching english on skype the fact thats it is very cheap to shoot and been having lots of fun with it.

If you take the bayonet off and try and shoot it at yards which is only You can buy a taller sight post or just slip on piece of wire shielding 16 gauge over the post and re-sight the rifle forex megadroid robot reviews meters.

I went through and examined several and picked one out. No its not a Enfield. A decent one is a incredible bargain. The gun eithor speaks to you or it doesnt. I find stock market vienna a much more interesting rifle then many modern rifles.

Recoil is quite soft with light ball. The round front sight shroud lends itself to very quick shooting at yards. If the target is close you put the circle on it and squeeze the trigger ignoring the post. If its a bit farther go to the post. I always have cleaned mine faithfully at the range with a spray bottle of water followed by a bore snake and then can i get paid to donate blood plasma it down with barricade with no problems commodity trading online forex. Mine shot a little high so i just removed a little metal from the bottom of the slider of the rear sight.

Why mess with the front sight unless it shoots low? I had one in one of my Mosies that let the trigger flop side to side so much it was distracting, and would just fall out when I was cleaning the gun. I got my box of old worn out drill bits out and found one that fit almost too tight.

I trimmed it down with a cut off wheel in the Dremel. Both are fun shooters, but the Tula surprised me. The same accuracy as my Remington that I just spent for. Wish I would have seen this first. With milsurp ammo is a all in one rifle, flame thrower and concussion grenade. But very tame with the cast boolits, I can push a grainer right at 2, fps without loss of accuracy.

Thread Lazerus……The first bolt action that I ever owned was an Izhevsk M44 carbine bought at a gunshow in Colorado. Unissued and cosmoline encrusted it was one of the best memories I had of living in the U. I paid about making counterfeit uk money for it including some ammo.

I remember living in a little appartment and filling the bathroom sink with coleman white spirit trying to disolve the gunk and my ex wife hitting the roof when she found out what I had bought. One of the many treasures that I had to leave behind when I moved back home.

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I always tell those who put down the Mosin Nagant to talk to my brother-in-law who was on Hill 51 or was it 55? I have taken several deer with it at yds with instant drop results. You just gotta appreciate the simplicity, roughed reliability abc india stock market bse nse live history of accomplishment that the rifle has.

Everything considered, give credit where credit is due. In other news, the M44 is brilliant. God bless the Russians for charging Berlin with how did hurricane katrina affect the stock market weapon! My gut tells me anyone who was disrespectful to any 80 yr old veteran would find plenty of MEN capable of kicking ass backing up that old veteran.

April 17, at Actually the M44 was not a front line weapon, but was primarily for back in the rear protecting the gear. Did everything but the bent bolt myself, and the rifle shoots around 1 MOA yds with good soft point ammo. Mosin Nagants can be very accurate rifles, and simply a BLAST to customize. Your family history truly inspires me. God bless your brother and father. One of the two, has a Buying overseas shares directly England Westinghouse receiver, I am still trying to determine who and where it was accurized, it.

The work on it was done very professional, action has been epoxy bedded with pillars and the forestock done like no other I have ever seen. My son-in-law, who is an excellent marksman, has proved this rifle to be of match quality, at yards he can do consistent one hole 3 shot groups with the iron sights using Russian milsurp ammo.

Receiver internal machine work I would compare to any high end sporter for quality, action is slick as glass and trigger had a light mouse trap spring to eliminate slop and pull, forex volume by hour crisp clean at 2.

The rifling is superb and bore slugs at. I use mostly hard cast and gas checked boolits in all four NG rifles, but it is like this Tula and cast boolits were especially made for each other. The work I have done on the Tula consists of, removing rear sight and utilizing the best forex signal providers 2013 12MM dove tail to install a scout scope and fully adjustable aperture ghost ring back up sight, just in case scope should fail afield.

I made up a leather cheek riser piece and installed a hard rubber butt stock extender. All in all, have invested a little time and very little money in a rifle that I really like a great deal.

Ammonia and other solutions are not needed, nor desired, for cleaning milsurps after shooting cartridges with corrosive primers. Seriously, this is the best Mosin review EVER. Funny, informed and well written. It does not go into Mexico with us Yucatan the last 3 attila the stockbroker reverbnation. Greatly appreciated the video on properly utilizing the chargers.

Put some lithium grease on the inner lips of the chargers and they work superbly. These weapons destroyed the best the germans had to throw at the russians,just like a ak its simple,affordable,indestrutable,and all that adds up to a weapon id be proud to own just for the historical side.

I own a nagant — they are a fine weapon. Or at the very least, they do what a firearm is supposed to do. It will hit your target. Does it hit the intended place you were aiming at…yes. For all you Mosin Haters out there I have only one thing to say to you. I have seen all the torture tests done on the mosin and every one of those tests concluded that the mosin nagant is nearly indistructable.

I care that its reliability and durability far exceeds that of nearly all modern hunting and many military rifles of today and sures hell beats the crap out of the mauser and fricking enfields.

Hey there James Crandall…Tell us how you really feel! Although I do respect, admire and love my Mausers and Enfields,I would m91/30 tactical stock put down a Mosin Nagant, evident by my prior post. The action on every Mosin I own is just as smooth as my Mausers and Enfields. For all the so called drawbacks of the Mosins, there is a simple and inexpensive solution that only takes a little TLC and patience to correct.

As I said once before, ya gotta give credit where credit is due. The Russians held off the Germans with the Mosin during WWII, inflicting some serious damage. It may not be as stylish as the Mausers and Enfields, but it hits what you aim for and if that be a deer, bear, coyote or human its gonna capm indian stock market tips free on mobile them if not kill them.

The barrel had been cut as well as the stock, but the bore was kraken forex binary option system data with strong rifling and no pitting, which amazed me in itself. Mosin Nagants make for a good base to build a inexpensive rifle for hunting and SHTF defense. What would be your number 1 reason for owning a Mosin-Nagant? My number one reason for owning a Mosin Nagant was reliability.

The Mosin Nagant can take anthing you throw at it and keep going. I have a remington mosin naget with the czar stamp; soviet star and north Vietnam. It was captured by a killed VC sniper. It made its way back around the world. Hey do any of you guys have some good pics of Mosin Nagant bore pics, I would like to see if the rifling on my Mosins are in good shape or on their way to be worn out. I do the bullet test from time to time and the round doesnt show any signs of sinking deeper into the crownits tight every time.

If the rifling is really worn at the crown. Counter boring is basically drilling some of the rifling out at the muzzle. I had an M1 Garand with a worn muzzle and had it counter bored. The counter bore cleaned the groups upon that rifle too. Also I suspect they may be herd animals. They seem to herd up in my house anyway.

Wish I had a Finn though. It did look rather beat to hell. Nevermore I trust its reliability. Any good solvent from the auto parts store or hardware will do it.

I find that naptha or the cheapest paint thinner you can find does a good job. Of course, take all the metal parts out of the stock for the parts washer. The wood usually cleans up pretty good if you put it out in the sun on a hot day, maybe in the trunk of your car.

The heat will soak the cosmo right out of the stock. One of mine still leaks a little cosmoline from under rear sight base sometimes. Carry an old t-shirt with you for a while. That stuff makes a mess on you clothes. Everything this moron said in this artical is false,he is a fucking retard.

Jealousy is such an ugly trait. When you say something you did you need to back it up with facts. I now have 7 Mosins. I caught Mosinitis and likely will have it for awhile. Look at price increases lately, first. Second, look at the huge popularity of these rifles.

Third, they will go up against practically anything made today of bolt action heritage. Fourth, the huge aftermarket now for the MN.

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Fifth, real rifles are made of wood and steel!! Very reliable and very well built. Sixth, ammo is readily available, and if the surplus dries up, well, there are so many companies making more that it is still cheaper then US made stuff. No, these rifles will accumulate in value. Supplies are not inexhaustable. Oh, eighth, even though i like Mausers, i love that the MN owes NOTHING to the K98 action. So, the very many reasons, including the cheaper price of the rifle, make these desirable.

And desirability drives demand. And when supplies diminish,……. I was used to shooting old rifles my father had inherited from his father so I wanted something like them as well. My brothers had snagged them all from Dad years ago. Well I have fired about rounds thru the thing and love its brutishness. It takes me longer to clean though because I use the cheap corrosive ammo most of the time.

There is a good reason for the heavy butt-stock and the steel butt-plate. The Soviet troops loved nothing more than joining with the Nazis in the Fritz trenches and fighting with the bayonet, the butt-stock and the shovel. If you are breaking heads with a rifle butt, it needs to be a tough one. A friend purchased one for his son few few years back for Christmas, and they brought it to my house to clean it up.

When we removed the butt plate there was a bunch of red hair caught under it. It looked like the barrel and action were just shoved into a full barrel of the stuff then put in the stock. I have owned about 20 of these over the years, and each have been great shooting rifles. I would love to see pics of that dream rifle you will build, unless you already have. Sounds like a winner. When I bought it, the barrel had been counter bored about six inches and I was getting a 12 inch pattern at yards.

Down side is that it is LOUD!!!! I pull the military Ball Ammo slug out and replace it with soft nose civilian ammo legal for hunting.

Always loose sight of my game temporarily in the fireball, a little closer to my game and it would be roasted! You realize this ammo is still being manufactured, and used by the Eastern Europeans, and Russians, right? Looking forward to purchasing my first Mosin. I read all these posts here and am looking forward to it even more so now. I thought of buying just the one, but may have to collect a variety after what I have read here today.

Pay yourself dollars per week. When you save it, by the second or third month you have enough for another Mosin. Something collectible and will only appreciate in value.

I have 8 now, mostly refurbs, but most in beautiful condition. Stocks, sights, scopes, go to youtube. I have two with laminated stocks that are beautiful rifles. I found an ATI stock cheeeeeep at a local show and invested in an angled bolt handle.

Finally I added a scout scope with one of the cheaper mounts. It seems to hold zero juist fine but it is not the mount you want on a field piece. Mine sits in a case and goes to the range a few times a year…. One misconception I would like to clear up.

I have read and have experienced that rounds must be loaded in proper stager to feed properly. Imagine a Russian in gloves at 20 below punching in a stripper and attempting to set the rounds in proper stagger……. There are several blogs that adress this issue and many pieces do not work properly from the factory.

Especially if the stock has ever been replaced. There is a clearance issue that needs to be addressed in the stock. Once you understand the concept fixing it is easy. For the money you can not beat the old Russian weapons…. MN, SKS, AK are just a few examples. I just read an older article in Shotgun News by Marc Vorobiez that the Russian government is slated to destroy some 16 million weapons.

The figure on the Mosins he quotes is some 4 million. That is a huge chunk of current Mosin population in the world, and will naturally make your Mosin s more valuable overnight.

I mean think of it, all they have to do with, say, the AKs and SKSs is to re-do the receivers then export them to the US as all-Russian original weapons. I would get in line. But alas, it appears not to be. I personally have three Nagant variants and counting and was frustrated with the scope mounting options—especially since most options require tapping the receiver no way! Since I run a design engineering machine shop, I decided to engineer my own Mosin Nagant M44 full length picatinny rail.

I got crowded by people everytime I went to the range asking about my Nagant Picatinny rail mount—so long story short, I decided to start producing them… and voila! That is very bad-ass and looks great. I hope you sell a ton of them. I just picked up a Vepr Tactical Sniper 7.

Any thoughts on that? The real key I guess is exactly what level of Mosin you buy. The one I have has a really tight bore. The one I have is from the Molot factory and is not a refurb. Most mosins I have are refurbs, but again, are nice. But those are suppose to me more accurate.

Hope this input helps. Yes, Dwight, that was very helpful, thanks! I can see I need to do more research to understand the differences and desirables! You can order one from Classic. Just pay the little extra for hand select for a good bore and crown. I did that on two and was not disappointed. Everything else on a Mosin is easily tweaked for improvement. See Josh Smiths website, smithsights. With the FFL costs and shipping, I figured it was a wash on price, plus I got to inspect it.

Nice bore, and a surprisingly good trigger. Shot it last week, sighted very well at 50 and 75 yards without touching the sights, so I am well pleased. Just make sure the bore is in good shape with good clean rifling. Also, no rust or pitting anywhere on metal. If the trigger is horrible, which most stock Mosin triggers are. Much can be done for no money to greatly improve the trigger.

All the info you need regarding Mosin upgrades and customizing is available on YouTube. Be careful with some of those youtube videos though.

Some of that bubba stuff is downright dangerous, if not ugly. The idea that the mosin nagant was the key to victory on the eastern front is one that the delusional can entertain. An antique bolt action that goes bang and can hit what it points at.

I have over a dozen mosins and a few Finnish mod Thanks for the input and advice Justjohn Let me weigh in on another opinion about ammo. I have noticed that 7.

I am awaiting my 3rd round tin of Hungarian heavy ball steel core. Not going to shoot much of that. No other heavy ball with steel core out there. It may very well be that as has been said, it will be ammunition that becomes hard to get in coming months and years. I will get back to purchasing more Mosins after satisfying amount of surplus ammo. Not every gun is for everyone, but I love it. I currently have 3 Mosins. I could shoot the irons better. The Izzy is okay.

I need to tweak it some more, I think. Just remember, if you decide to tinker with them, safety is your first concern. Go slow, and keep spare parts on hand in case you over do something.

Some new to make her feel pretty. Still want to find a Finn. Well, finally got to take my mosin out to play. Maybe 15 degrees out, shooting down by the river. All of the serials match, but the trigger feels like a two stage trigger. No pressure halfway back, then click and boom. Despite the cold my friend and I were able to hit light bulbs, pop cans, beer bottles etc. Given the accuracy vs. Should I swap out the trigger? Andy E, Before you go buying a trigger try a doing trigger job yourself.

Smith Sights has some very interesting accuracy information online at smithsights. The Mosin has such a simple trigger mechanism,only 2 moving parts. They can be greatly improved without spending money. I got mine in early November. After the holidays, I got an ad saying they were …. Call gun shops in your area for their prices. Anything more modern will run 2 or 3 times that. If they are in fact destroying 4 million mosins…. BUY THE ONE FOR Mosin-Nagant The Truth About Guns Reply With […].

Next time you spend a day "dipping" give this a try and let me know what you think? Mosin-Nagant The Truth About Guns Oh, by the way, I think you are suppose to scrape the wax off the end when you are ready to use, […]. He has a future doing something. But, something involving strength, and dexterity. Sorry to change the subject: Do any of you fine gentlemen know if the current batch of Mosin snipers offererd by AtlanticFirearms are authentic, or faked?

I could not get a response to an email I sent to Atlantic over 8 days ago asking very detailed questions. And of course no one is available to answer the phone. You have some really good posts and I believe I would be a good asset. Please blast me an e-mail if interested. This is the kind of info that should be shared across the net. Shame on the search engines for no longer positioning this post higher! Mosins may not be all that precise with the cheap milsurp ammo, but they take on new levels of precision if you handload.

Yeah, I got lucky and found a gun that likes that load. Several of those were headshots. A full-length M91 will do just as well with that load. If you want to have a little fun with a project gun, aftermarket barrels from McGowan and such are available. You should learn history detlef by saying Russia lose the war me by they have crapy rifles but for some reson they end up in USA and people enjoying them. You show me an M1 Grand or a Mosin-Nagant rifle and I will tell you that you have a musket, not a rifle.

Sorry, I am just not into those WWI and […]. Nice write up if a bit condescending. I enjoyed the tongue in cheek remarks. But, I want to disagree with a few points, one strongly. There are many variations of these rifles. Sometimes, and as is so often the case in collecting milsurp rifles, a marking can be the difference between cheap and valuable, sometimes VERY valuable.

Before tampering with any old gun or anything for that matter know what you have! There was a fellow that came and posted that he had scrubbed and cleaned the stock of his Civil War Spencer carbine and what should he do next. Get your first and second fingers over the knob, pull back and twist. It works pretty well. At least you KNEW the gun has a safety.

One more thing, re cleaning. But the crucial element is water. Just plain old H2O. Nothing more is needed to dissolve the corrosive salts from the primers. Myself, I like a formula of dawn dish soap and water. The soap removes the carbon fouling very well. Question for all Mosin lovers who may know: Only Ishevsk Snipers are apparently stamped with that.

I only ever found one blog where a guy with an Ishevsk sniper commented that they all have that. I have never had a more accurate rifle as this Lil guy! Kicks like a mule, but gets the job done. This is with a Rock Solid Ind. I sure would like to know what you were running down that barrel.

Those of you looking to get a scope mount, please be aware of the Brass Stacker scope mount. It requires no drilling or tapping, and it even mounts in such a way that your stock ironsights are still usable if SHTF whilst scoping zombies from yards away.

Dear Sirs; I enjoyed the article and the comments regarding Mosin Nagant Rifles. Still learning the weapon. Can someone explain how to use the rear sight? Also, what holds the front sight in place?

Earlier rifles were numbered in arshins, an obscure Russian measurement equal to, I believe, about 27 inches. Since most Mosins have been re-arsenaled You rear sight is probably in meters. Anything meters, and under just use the lowest setting.

In fact most Mosins shoot inches high at yds. That has something to do with how the Russian army trained their soldiers to shoot. It can be adjusted by drifting, or using a special front sight tool, or making a tool to do it. I use a small padded vise, and some little pieces I made to fit on the vise. Adjustment on the front sight should be toward the point of impact. In other words, if your shot hits high you need to raise the front sight.

If your shot hits to the right you need to move the sight to the right. These are done in really tiny little increments. A thousandth of inch at your front sight might be a foot at meters.

I did my first windage adjustments on a Mosin using a Visegrip, and little pieces of shim stock. AKA old steel cases cut with a Dremel tool. The price has risen sharply in the last few years.

For a few years I bought Mosins, cleaned them up, did some fine tuning on them, and gave them to family members for Christmas presents. They were that inexpensive. Three have been exceptional. Year of production other than a few are rare.

Caliber outside the 7. Rough finish, receiver not machined outside. Most sniper rifles were specially produced by highly skilled workers, and following pre-war standards, not selected from mass production as some believe.

Frivolous scope number on the left side of the barrel shank. The number of the original scope is usually stricken out. PU scopes were produced at 5 different factories, each with their own numbering system. Bolt handle welded on or not one piece of metal with the body. No dent on the lower surface of the bolt handle stem where it is bent. Old style factory markings on the bolt Sestroretsk arrow, Izhevsk bow, or Tula hammer.

Scope mount precision cast not milledwith smooth surface and indistinct markings. Vertical adjustment screws of the mount are not pinned. But, those days seem to be gone.

Somebody up there told how Mosin Bulets were flying through hanging metal targets although he did not mention how thick was the metal. A late riend of mine owned a well-worn Remington contract Mosin-Nagant, and I had the chance … […].

I went to the range the next month with it, shot TulAmmo gr FMJ, 40 rounds with only 1 stick, and that was the 40th round. After a friendly conversation followed by a 45 minute drive, looked it over and bought it.

Came with a sling and a clip pouch, it was a good deal. One Mosin Nagant is a curiosity not a SHTF gun. A crate of Mosin Nagants on the other hand is a SHTF arm your whole neighborhood gun. You can still in buy whole crates of these at a time for very reasonable prices.

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